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I-35 Criminal Threats in Johnson County Ks: Sheriff Cal Hayden fights Fentanyl & Human Trafficking

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The Sheriff’s here today: Our Health and the Health of our Communities


Joining me in studio today is Cal Hayden. He is the sheriff of Johnson County, Kansas and we’ll be discussing our personal health and highlight issues that we're dealing with in our communities in this country and how they affect community health.


Kansas City is halfway to everywhere. We're right in the middle of the country. So anywhere you go, you're going to go through Kansas City one way or another. I-35 is the artery interstate highway for trucking and transportation all the way from Mexico to Canada. And as a result, here in Johnson County we get a lot of activity especially now with border the way it is we're seeing a lot of nefarious activity centered around I-35 including human trafficking, drug traffic and almost anything you can think of that's illegal. As a result, the county jail has incarcerated citizens of from everywhere: a parole violation out of Russia, aggravated robbery out of Honduras, domestic battery from Kenya, and first-degree murder from India, murder from Kenya, Canada, the Philippines, aggravated arson, Guatemala, Azerbaijan, assault. It goes on and on.


From the show: Cal Hayden:

“What moves through our county? So, let's talk about fentanyl. There's an enormous amount of discussion going on in between the federal and state government and state governments and everything that's going on on the border for the majority of this is coming over.

Fentanyl coming up through the I-35 corridor and then being dispersed out into the communities.

And if it's not shipped, it's being mailed out. We're finding a lot in the US mail as well as UPS & FedEx. We take our dogs in and we'll run them up and down the lines and find lots of fentanyl. Also, they're trucking it in. Our officers will make stops on I-35. We've got cartel members here doing it. “


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Episode 2008 Transcript:


00;00;01;14 - 00;00;05;22

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00;00;05;24 - 00;00;30;04

Cary Hall

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00;00;30;07 - 00;00;46;12

Cary Hall

So we want to thank Anthony Garza, the program director there, for putting us on. We're very happy to be on the air in Lubbock. And welcome you to the America's Healthcare Advocate family. Thank you very much for putting us on the air and letting us be part of your audience in Lubbock, Texas. My producer is Mr. Shawn Floyd.


00;00;46;12 - 00;01;15;06

Cary Hall

Me other producer, today, the man behind the cameras is Dave Thiessen. All these shows are posted on 14 podcast platforms and YouTube as well as heard across the country on our 200. I think again, it's 233. Is that about right Dave? 233 affiliates. Now we keep adding. I'm very happy to say that if you are chronologically challenged looking for Medicare and help with Medicare insurance of any kind, you can call the lovely Carolee Steele at 877-385-2224.


00;01;15;13 - 00;01;35;29

Cary Hall

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00;01;36;05 - 00;01;55;20

Cary Hall

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00;01;55;21 - 00;02;16;01

Cary Hall

877-385-2224. She is happy to help you. All right. This is a little unusual show today. We've done something like this a couple of times. Joining me in studio today is Cal Hayden. He is the sheriff of the Johnson County Sheriff's Department. And you may be wondering, what's that got to do with health care? It's got a lot to do with our health of our communities.


00;02;16;02 - 00;02;36;28

Cary Hall

Okay. And that's why he's here today. You know, we live in this bubble, you know, here in Johnson County, where we're in one of the top one of the wealthiest counties in the country, I think are number four. Number five in terms of wealth as a county, the city of Overland Park, which I live in, is the largest city in Johnson County, is the number two rated happiest place in the country to live.


00;02;37;03 - 00;02;56;24

Cary Hall

Number two, up from number four last year. So we're in this bubble or, you know, we've got a great community here. We have a great sheriff's department, great police departments in Overland Park. Lenexa, you know, some of the other areas in and around Johnson County, but there's a lot under the surface that we don't see. So I invited Sheriff Cal Hayden to come on the show.


00;02;56;25 - 00;02;57;19

Cary Hall

Welcome to the show.


00;02;57;22 - 00;02;58;05

Cal Hayden

Thank you.


00;02;58;05 - 00;03;13;27

Cary Hall

Thank you. Very happy to have you here today. And we're going to talk about some of that. I want to make you aware of some of the things that are happening that we're not aware of. They're kind of under the surface, but they are a very significant issue in today's world that we need to be aware of. Sheriff Hayden is proven.


00;03;14;03 - 00;03;40;10

Cary Hall

He is tested. He's got extensive experience as a Johnson County sheriff. He's been the Johnson County sheriff since 2017. Sheriff Hayden always called Kansas home. He grew up in DeSoto, Kansas, served the United States Army Reserves the 159th police unit and 406 Engineer Battalion from 1974 to 1980. He served the United States Coast Guard Reserves from 86 to 90 and achieving the rank of petty officer in the Summit County Sheriff's Department.


00;03;40;12 - 00;04;04;08

Cary Hall

He has served in the Johnson County Sheriff's Office for 36 years. He's got a little experience, you might say. So let's just kind of dive in, Sheriff. Great. So, you know, it's as I open this up, you and I talked a little bit before we get on the air here. So we're in the I-35 corridor here. Okay. And before we get to that, and that's one of the first things we're going to talk about, is let's just talk about your department.


00;04;04;11 - 00;04;14;22

Cary Hall

How big is the Johnson County Sheriff's Department? How much of an area does it cover? Okay. And your responsibilities in this in in the county of Johnson County, Sheriff, Great.


00;04;14;24 - 00;04;39;26

Cal Hayden

Johnson County, our sheriff's office is the largest in the state of Kansas. We were slated for 504 deputies. All of our officers are certified law enforcement officers. And we've got another 200 employees that are just as important as anybody wearing a badge that take care of all of our administrative and we've got some civilian staff in our jail.


00;04;39;28 - 00;04;52;25

Cal Hayden

We are. And a lot of people don't even know we exist in Johnson County. It's interesting because I was when I ran for sheriff, I would be out knocking on doors up here in Overland Park and tell people you're running for sheriff and they say you work for the city.


00;04;52;27 - 00;05;12;09

Cary Hall

That's really funny. I got to tell you a story. We just we moved out of Kansas City, out of Brookside, out to 179th Street, which is out by right out by the Arboretum. Right in a new development out there called Chapel Hill. And I saw these black cars going up and down 179th Street. And they were police cars like what police department said, that's the Johnson County Sheriff's Department.


00;05;12;14 - 00;05;30;02

Cary Hall

And they patrol our complex from time to time. But they have a heavy presence on 178th run. And I'm thrilled to see it. It's a it's a comfort to us to know. But I didn't know. It's a to your point. I did not know that was the Johnson County Sheriff's Department either. I thought it was the Overland Park Police Department and that was it.


00;05;30;06 - 00;05;36;20

Cary Hall

You've got 504 deputies and 200, that’s 700 people. This is a big department.


00;05;36;24 - 00;05;47;08

Cal Hayden

It is. It is. It's a and it's it's interesting. And I really liked the idea that you don't need us in your business. And a lot of people don't notice us until you need us in your business.


00;05;47;13 - 00;05;47;23

Cary Hall

yeah.


00;05;47;27 - 00;05;55;08

Cal Hayden

And we play it pretty low key. And unless you need us, we're not going to be around. We do. You're down there by school, so we patrol our schools.


00;05;55;12 - 00;05;57;24

Cary Hall

And there's two Blue Valley schools down there.


00;05;57;24 - 00;06;23;16

Cal Hayden

Yes, absolutely. We're in and we patrol all the rural areas. We are also civil papers and court documents that need to be served. Our officers do that. And that's those are uniformed officers. We've got a crime lab probably one of the greatest crime labs in the country. Really, really good. We also got patrol, school resource officers, court security, investigators. We've got a drug task force.


00;06;23;16 - 00;06;25;07

Cal Hayden

We're doing a lot of what you're.


00;06;25;08 - 00;06;26;08

Cary Hall

Talking about that are.


00;06;26;08 - 00;06;41;10

Cal Hayden

Huge. It's huge. We've got a lot of full service things that we do. We run two jails. I think we run really good jails Everywhere I've been there, they're pretty much second to none and pretty proud of them. So come out, take a look at us because we love to show it off.


00;06;41;15 - 00;07;02;09

Cary Hall

Well, it's just great to learn more about what you do and how you do it and how important law enforcement is to again, I talked about we live in this great community. There's a reason for that. Okay. I mean, look, and I just I mean, I'm broadcast this show across the country because I want everybody, especially if you happen to live in one of these suburban communities, to understand that we're not immune from what goes on.


00;07;02;15 - 00;07;24;27

Cary Hall

Now here, if you're not familiar with Kansas City, Kansas and Missouri are divided by a street called State Line. I mentioned earlier that I had moved out of Kansas City over to Overland Park. One of the reasons why I moved was because of the crime and the issues in the city of Kansas City, which has one of the highest homicide rates in the country, along with a whole host of other little issues that go along with that.


00;07;25;00 - 00;07;45;10

Cary Hall

So the contrast couldn't be greater between Jackson County, which is the county that encompasses Kansas City and Johnson County, which encompasses Overland Park, which the city I live in. So and we'll talk a little bit about that. But let's go back to this topic that I just mentioned early coming on, and that is this I-35 corridor. Why is that important and what does that mean?


00;07;45;10 - 00;07;52;00

Cary Hall

What is the I-35 corridor? And in the next segment, we'll get into some more detail. But what is that and why is that important, Sheriff?


00;07;52;01 - 00;08;12;01

Cal Hayden

Well, Kansas City is halfway to everywhere. We're right in the middle of the country. So anywhere you go, you're going to go through Kansas City one way or another. I-35 is the same thing all the way to Texas. It is an artery and it's an artery for trucking, transportation all the way from Canada to.


00;08;12;01 - 00;08;13;23

Cary Hall

Texas and Mexico and.


00;08;13;24 - 00;08;28;22

Cal Hayden

Mexico to go straight down to Mexico. So we get a lot of activity coming up because of that, especially now with border the way it is and and some of the things going on, we're seeing a lot of nefarious activity centered around I-35.


00;08;28;24 - 00;08;39;12

Cary Hall

So talk about when you say nefarious activity in I-35 is being used as a corridor, I assume most for this this activity move through.


00;08;39;14 - 00;08;54;00

Cal Hayden

What we're seeing is human trafficking, very prolific through there. We're seeing drug traffic. Anything you can think of that's illegal, where things need to be transported. You see those things coming down I-35.


00;08;54;02 - 00;09;03;02

Cary Hall

We're going to go to break here in a few minutes, but in about a minute or so. But I need to ask you, are you seeing have you seen an uptick on that with this current situation at the border?


00;09;03;05 - 00;09;03;26

Cal Hayden

yes.


00;09;03;28 - 00;09;06;03

Cary Hall

Okay. So there is a significant increase.


00;09;06;06 - 00;09;16;00

Cal Hayden

There is. And we've got an increase in our custody levels in our jails. We've got citizens of from everywhere. I'll read your list.


00;09;16;01 - 00;09;18;23

Cary Hall

Okay. Just give me some idea of from everywhere.


00;09;18;24 - 00;09;27;16

Cal Hayden

Well, I get a report every day. We try to keep track of what's going on because of prosecutions and who's coming into our county.


00;09;27;16 - 00;09;44;25

Cary Hall

So let's do this. We're coming up from the break. Look, we come back from the break. I want you to go through that. I want people to hear this. Like I said people. I want you to understand something. You're not immune to this. If you live in Illinois or you live in Arizona or you live in Missouri or, you know, Nebraska, it doesn't really matter.


00;09;45;01 - 00;10;03;08

Cary Hall

The purpose of my doing this show today is to highlight these issues that we're dealing with in our communities and how they affect the health of our communities. We'll be right back after the break. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting here on the HIA Radio Network. Coast to coast across the USA. Stay tuned. The sheriff's here today.


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00;11;10;10 - 00;11;32;12

Cary Hall

Welcome back. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show, broadcasting coast to coast across USA here on the HIA Radio Network. You can find out more about us by going to the website America's Healthcare Advocate dot com. Also we’re posting on 14 podcast platforms. So if it's out there, we're probably on it. Okay. And our YouTube following, I think it's up to like 270 some thousand downloads.


00;11;32;14 - 00;11;59;20

Cary Hall

So we know you're watching, we know you're listening and we appreciate all of you out there throughout the country. Joining me in studio today, Sheriff Cal Hayden to the Johnson County Sheriff's Department. You know, they're pretty big department, 504 officers, 200 civilian employees. I thought it would be kind of interesting to have him on today. I really am focusing today on what we see in suburban communities and why we have a tendency to think those problems that we see oftentimes on the news and read in newspapers.


00;11;59;26 - 00;12;20;05

Cary Hall

Assuming you read the newspapers still are focused only on the cities. They're not there in our communities, too. And that's the purpose of doing this show today, talking about the health of our communities and how that affects us. You know, I've got six grandchildren are children and grandchildren. So that that's the purpose of this show today. So. So you mentioned the I-35 corridor.


00;12;20;05 - 00;12;38;24

Cary Hall

We've got people coming in here. I ask you if the current situation in the border with the flood of migrants coming into the country is impacting the sex trafficking and the drug trafficking and all that, you said? Yes. And then you said we've got a lot of people in our jails and you're going to tell us where some of these folks in our jails are from.


00;12;38;26 - 00;12;40;28

Cary Hall

And they're not from Boise, Idaho.


00;12;40;29 - 00;12;42;00

Cal Hayden

No, they're not. Okay.


00;12;42;00 - 00;12;43;04

Cary Hall

So where are they from?


00;12;43;05 - 00;12;51;11

Cal Hayden

And a lot of people don't don't know this. So it's an interesting concept of what's coming up through our border. We got a parole violation out of Russia.


00;12;51;14 - 00;12;53;05

Cary Hall

Russia. Ok.


00;12;53;08 - 00;13;21;04

Cal Hayden

Aggravated robbery out of Honduras, domestic battery from Kenya, murder and first degree from India, another Kenya, Canada, the Philippines, aggravated arson, Guatemala, Azerbaijan, assault. It goes on and on. Germany, Honduras, Kenya, Argentina, Colombia, Venezuela, Italy, you name it. We've got people here.


00;13;21;04 - 00;13;46;03

Cary Hall

You know, I'm a pretty informed guy. I read three newspapers on a daily basis. Okay. I there are a number of websites that I go through because this radio show and all the rest of it and that floors me. I had no idea. Yeah, I'm really here in Johnson County in our jail. Okay. In our urban suburban community here, we've got people in jail from all these places all over the world.


00;13;46;03 - 00;14;03;10

Cary Hall

So if you think this isn't affecting you, I don't care where you are. If you're in Boise, Idaho, and, you know, I made a joke or a little bit if you're if you're in, you know, Omaha, Nebraska, or you're in Peoria, Illinois, or wherever you may be, if you think this is an issue in Minnesota or wherever the case is, guess what?


00;14;03;15 - 00;14;27;03

Cary Hall

It's an issue. And that's why we're talking about today. Yeah. So they're coming into this country. They're there. They're not here legally, obviously. Okay. And they're committing crimes right now. We hear when you when you hear people try to talk about this, they're branded as xenophobic. Name the number of phobias, whatever they are. Okay. Because you're bringing up.


00;14;27;03 - 00;14;44;00

Cary Hall

But but this is the point I'm making here as regards I don't care whether you Republican or Democrat, independent, It doesn't really matter. The point is this is reality is what we're saying, Sheriff. Yes, this is reality. This is happening right now in communities across the country. Nobody's immune from this.


00;14;44;04 - 00;15;09;13

Cal Hayden

Nobody is. And the thing is, is a lot of them have different cultures. And in one culture, they're very controlling of a wife. And they'll end up here in domestic battery charge. We don't tolerate that here. And all we do is we're not looking for illegal people. We're looking for criminals, and people are committing crimes and most of them are going to be here for long term because once they're convicted of a crime, if even if they get deported, that won't be until after they've served their sentence.


00;15;09;16 - 00;15;10;22

Cal Hayden

So it's very costly.


00;15;10;26 - 00;15;36;17

Cary Hall

Stop for a second. So they commit they commit an armed robbery. You've got one in here for murder from India. Okay. If and when that one serves a sentence and doesn't get, you know, life or whatever the case may be, he cannot be deported out of. I didn't know this had. This is amazing what we're learning. ICE cannot come in here and deport him and take him back to his country till after he serves the sentence.


00;15;36;18 - 00;15;46;26

Cary Hall

Yes. Yes. So they're going to go to Lansing Prison or Leavenworth, whatever, when it is you send to do. Exactly. Okay. And that's where they're going to be until they finish serving their sentence.


00;15;46;28 - 00;15;51;14

Cal Hayden

Yes. Yeah, It's amazing.


00;15;51;16 - 00;16;03;14

Cary Hall

So I'm guessing if they're if people that are committing murders here, robberies here from Russia, do we ever extradite these people to these other countries because they're wanted there for the same kinds of crimes?


00;16;03;14 - 00;16;15;06

Cal Hayden

A lot of times they are. A lot of times they've got criminal charges in the other countries. And that's why they deport them. They just take them back to their country. And they didn't have to be in extradition. And if they're deported, they go back and they'll face the charges they've got there.


00;16;15;08 - 00;16;20;22

Cary Hall

But, you know, if they want an extradition from you, do you cooperate with them or they have to serve their sentence in Kansas.


00;16;20;22 - 00;16;22;02

Cal Hayden

Have to serve their sentence in Kansas?


00;16;22;02 - 00;16;45;05

Cary Hall

You don't want to come to Kansas, People tell you right now. Okay. Because there's there's no tolerance for this here. And I don't know what it's like in the rest of the country. But clearly, obviously, in Kansas, this is and, you know, this is not being tolerated. So that that's that's amazing to me. Yeah. I mean, again, I consider myself a pretty well-informed guy.


00;16;45;08 - 00;16;51;02

Cary Hall

The amount of news that I consume. But my wife wishes I didn't consume nearly as much.


00;16;51;04 - 00;16;51;29

Cal Hayden

I understand.


00;16;51;29 - 00;17;09;11

Cary Hall

I guess if she asked you if you're going to watch your news, I'm just going to stay in the air. I mean, I would do something else for the time being. But having said that, you think you know what's going on. In reality, this is going on. This is not being talked about by anybody. I don't I don't see this out there being talked about.


00;17;09;11 - 00;17;21;00

Cal Hayden

It's not in our or our inmates of foreign birth or of increased probably two fold. Used to be we had a few but not from I mean this is literally from all over the world.


00;17;21;02 - 00;17;31;14

Cary Hall

Yeah. I guess if we're getting it from India and Nigeria and Russia, that's a pretty good Azerbaijan. I mean, that's that's a that's a pretty remarkable mix.


00;17;31;14 - 00;17;32;12

Cal Hayden

It really is. Really?


00;17;32;13 - 00;17;46;00

Cary Hall

Yeah. So do you. So this is another question. Do you cooperate with ICE if ICE wants to come in, are you. I know a lot of counties and cities and areas don't do does does Kansas and Johnson County cooperate?


00;17;46;00 - 00;18;12;01

Cal Hayden

Absolutely, we do. And we have when I first got elected, it was during the transition with presidents and ICE didn't do any hardly any deportations. So they were biting at the bit to just do their jobs. They were held back. They were frustrated. There again, we you know, everybody some of our Hispanic community was really worried that they were going to be rounded up at church and things.


00;18;12;03 - 00;18;28;29

Cal Hayden

So we met with ice and we talked with them and said, look, none of us have got time to go out and round people up. And that's not what we do anyway. We're just looking for bad guys. And that's what I did and that's what they do. They are they are ready, willing to go. They're working hard if they're allowed to.


00;18;29;01 - 00;18;38;09

Cary Hall

So and, and, and again, the focus there when cooperating with them is is on criminals, people that are bad guys that's committing crimes.


00;18;38;09 - 00;18;40;28

Cal Hayden

They don't have time. We don't have time for anything else.


00;18;41;04 - 00;18;46;19

Cary Hall

So we're not we're not pulling people out of churches and that of restaurants because they're here from Mexico or Guatemala.


00;18;46;19 - 00;18;47;22

Cal Hayden

That's not going to happen.


00;18;47;24 - 00;18;48;27

Cary Hall

That's not how this work.


00;18;48;27 - 00;18;50;14

Cal Hayden

They've got rights and going to protect those.


00;18;50;14 - 00;19;12;21

Cary Hall

Okay. That's that's yeah, I hope everybody's hearing this and understanding this that, you know, we see oftentimes today's media, law enforcement is painted with the pictures I mentioned earlier. I was surprised and I'll make this point now as we go to break here in a minute, you know, we had the shooting in here in Kansas City at the Super Bowl parade.


00;19;12;21 - 00;19;39;29

Cary Hall

And after at the end of the facility, the number of politicians who typically are not pro law enforcement, they came out and lauded the departments. And Johnson County Sheriff's Department was there for running toward the gunfire. Okay. So this is part of what we don't appreciate in this country sometimes is the men and women that wear that badge and put their life on the line every day so that we can live in our communities safely and soundly.


00;19;40;00 - 00;20;00;08

Cary Hall

We'll be right back after the break. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting here on the HIA Radio Network. Coast to coast across the USA.


00;20;00;10 - 00;20;28;29

Cary Hall

Welcome back. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocates Show, broadcasting coast to coast across the USA here on the HIA Radio Network. You can learn more about us by going to the website America's Healthcare Advocate dot com. Also, the podcast platforms, I’m going to tell you which ones they are. We're on Amazon Music, Audacy, Overcast, Pandora, RSS Podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, iTunes Podcasts, Spreaker, SoundCloud, Rumble Pocket Casts, Apple and Google Podcasts.


00;20;28;29 - 00;20;49;21

Cary Hall

I think that's all of them. I think we may have added one more iHeart Podcasts, I'm not sure, but we're on almost every one that's out there. So if you're looking for us on the podcast platforms, you can certainly find us also on the YouTube channel. Also, the sheriff's running for another term here in Johnson County. We certainly hope he gets reelected based on the job that he's done on his currently doing.


00;20;49;26 - 00;21;20;26

Cary Hall

You can go to the website calvinhaydenforsheriff.com Calvin Hayden H-A-Y-D-E-N for Sheriff dot com If you want to get involved in his campaign and help with what he's doing here in in Johnson County. So let's go back to I-35 for a minute. So let's talk about fentanyl. There's an enormous amount of discussion going on in between, you know, the federal government and state governments and everything that's going on on the border for the majority of this is coming over.


00;21;20;26 - 00;21;30;09

Cary Hall

At least that's what I understand. And and this fentanyl is this fentanyl coming up through the I-35 corridor and then being dispersed out into the communities.


00;21;30;15 - 00;21;36;00

Cal Hayden

Yes. And if it's not shipped, it's being mailed out. We're we're finding a lot in the mail.


00;21;36;02 - 00;21;36;22

Cary Hall

They’re mailing it.


00;21;36;22 - 00;21;59;03

Cal Hayden

Mailing it. And U.P.S., FedEx, United States mail. We take our dogs in and we'll run them up and down the lines and find lots of fentanyl. Also, they're trucking it in. Our officers will break and make stops on I-35. We've got cartel members here doing it. They're getting these cartel members here. Absolutely.


00;21;59;05 - 00;22;04;07

Cary Hall

In Johnson County. Yes. This is amazing.


00;22;04;07 - 00;22;16;17

Cal Hayden

Well, it's a great place to. Live. Yeah, I guess it is for not just for those of us that are that are law abiding citizens, but others as well. So. So and this stuffs being manufactured in Mexico and brought up here.


00;22;16;20 - 00;22;35;14

Cal Hayden

For the most part. Yes. The precursors for the drugs are being shipped to Mexico from China. So it's very easy for them being used. The chemicals are. Yes. And they will press them into pills. And it's not just, you know, we call them M30s It's a blue pill that a lot of people see it and think that's fentanyl.


00;22;35;16 - 00;22;58;17

Cal Hayden

They're not they're putting anything. They're putting in marijuana, they're putting it in anything they can get it in. We had a young man and this is tragic, 17 year old young man, they find him dead, parents found him dead at his desk. Good kid. No criminal history, good athlete, just a normal kid. Find him dead on his desk and had no idea what happened to him.


00;22;58;19 - 00;23;11;17

Cal Hayden

Turns out he and a friend bought an Adderall pill online. Broke it in half. He takes half. The other kid takes half, and their son dies. That's not an overdose. That's a poisoning.


00;23;11;20 - 00;23;31;06

Cary Hall

And I hope you're. This is why I'm doing this today. I've got six grandkids, okay? And this is why I'm doing this. You need to be aware of this. What's going on? So they the kids, the kid, these kids went online. They bought Adderall because it helps. A lot of kids in college use it for studying the rest of it.


00;23;31;06 - 00;23;41;25

Cary Hall

It's it's a big deal in schools. And he thought he was buying Adderall and he took half of one pill and it killed it. Yeah.


00;23;41;27 - 00;23;42;20

Cal Hayden

It's just terrible.


00;23;42;27 - 00;23;49;19

Cary Hall

That's tragic. And these websites are available. These kids can go buy off these websites wherever they may be.


00;23;49;21 - 00;23;54;15

Cal Hayden

They don't verify who it is. They're out to make money and from anybody and anywhere they can.


00;23;54;17 - 00;23;56;22

Cary Hall

And it's just being shipped all over the country. All over.


00;23;56;22 - 00;24;14;17

Cal Hayden

The country. Our dogs, we typically take off about 20,000 pills. And we're finding and DEA will tell you one in six will kill you. And the only thing that that stops it is not Narcan. We all carry Narcan.


00;24;14;18 - 00;24;15;24

Cary Hall

Everybody carries Narcan.


00;24;15;24 - 00;24;27;00

Cal Hayden

Now and it's been a gift. And so we have no way of knowing how many deaths have been prevented with Narcan. But we know there's hundreds of thousands in the United States. It's approaching COVID numbers.


00;24;27;00 - 00;24;46;19

Cary Hall

You know, this doesn't scare the hell out of you. I don't know what would. Okay. You need to keep this in mind when you're listening to all this nonsense about law enforcement and just all the noise that's out there. This is actually going on. They don't care if you're a Republican, a Democrat, or an Independent, Libertarian. They don't care what you are, okay?


00;24;46;23 - 00;25;07;03

Cary Hall

They don't care what race You are a political party. You are. They're poisoning our kids and they're poisoning people in this country. And if you doubt that, you look and see what's going on in places like San Francisco. Los Angeles. Yeah. I just have a friend that came back from San Francisco, has lived there most of his life and had moved out a number of years ago, lives here in Overland Park.


00;25;07;08 - 00;25;24;03

Cary Hall

He said it was worse than he couldn't even imagine how bad it was. It's that bad. Okay. And this is this is this is unfortunately out of control. But again, I'm focused on what's going on in suburban communities here and what's happening with us. So this fentanyl thing then is basically what you're saying is out of control.


00;25;24;08 - 00;25;24;18

Cal Hayden

It is.


00;25;24;18 - 00;25;36;08

Cary Hall

And we're not doing a damn thing to stop it from coming in here from China. Nobody's putting nobody getting the Chinese to stop shipping this stuff because they're poisoning Americans and they know it. Right. And they're happy to do it.


00;25;36;10 - 00;25;45;28

Cal Hayden

Yes. there's been some movement out of Washington trying to stop the chemicals from coming in. It's a lot of talk. It's all talk. Yes.


00;25;46;01 - 00;26;00;17

Cary Hall

Okay. So now we're going to shift gears. We're going to talk about legal marijuana. And I'm going to show you some pictures here. And while I'm showing you these pictures, I'm going to let the sheriff explain to you what this is. So this is the first picture. Can you talk about, these sheriff?


00;26;00;17 - 00;26;16;03

Cal Hayden

These are Froot, a spin off of Froot Loops cereal. And it's a cereal. It's infused with a large amount of THC. Keep going. This one is a chocolate chocolate bar. It's infused with THC.


00;26;16;05 - 00;26;17;08

Cary Hall

And this one is.


00;26;17;13 - 00;26;27;14

Cal Hayden

This one’s Cocoa Puffs, a spin off of Cocoa Puffs that are infused with more THC. And these these doses of THC are massive.


00;26;27;16 - 00;26;29;08

Cary Hall

And this one is really scary.


00;26;29;15 - 00;26;36;14

Cal Hayden

This is just candy and spin offs of different candy that all of our kids would eat. And it's infused with THC.


00;26;36;17 - 00;26;43;22

Cary Hall

And this and this is part that's really going to make your hair stand up. This is not illegal. Explain this.


00;26;43;22 - 00;27;03;11

Cal Hayden

In states that approved marijuana, a lot of people don't understand that. It also includes the edibles. And the edibles are very dangerous for for kids, especially because if it's in a cookie or a brownie or any of this candy that they would normally need, a handful of it has a drastic, terrible effect on some of the kids.


00;27;03;11 - 00;27;15;00

Cal Hayden

Your E.R.’s will be loaded with kids that have psychosis or in some cases just dying. And there's levels of this that can kill you.


00;27;15;08 - 00;27;32;03

Cary Hall

Okay. So explain that. You're talking about THC levels, right? So before, while we were on break, so we were talking about back in the day when I was growing up and when sheriff's growing up, the typical stuff in marijuana was about 6% THC. Talk about what what is it in in things like these candies that we're looking at?


00;27;32;03 - 00;27;38;05

Cal Hayden

It probably would be about, I don't know, about a thousand milligrams for each piece of candy.


00;27;38;07 - 00;27;39;12

Cary Hall

A thousand milligrams.


00;27;39;14 - 00;28;00;27

Cal Hayden

It’s really concentrated. Yes, it's crazy. It's crazy the amount they can put in there. And what happens is and we were talking about this, is there there are grow operations. A lot of them are in Oklahoma right now. They're fighting like like crazy where they are buying farms out for a lot of money. And it's Chinese gangs are running these.


00;28;00;29 - 00;28;23;13

Cal Hayden

When I talked to a sheriff down there, he told me in Chinese gangs in Oklahoma City, I just couldn't believe it. But they are running marijuana grow operations, huge ones, and they high grade, 30% marijuana. They package it up, send it to the East Coast where these manufacturers are manufacturing anything they can with high amounts of THC.


00;28;23;16 - 00;28;54;00

Cary Hall

It this is what I'm talking about. It is hard to imagine what is going on here and the level of this and this is this is being so what's happening is so here in here we are back in Kansas, Missouri. We have a street that divides the two states. Right. It's legal in Missouri. So all these things that I just showed you, these pictures and I've got a stack of about 30 of them here, all of these products can be bought in Kansas City at the marijuana grow shops that we have throughout Kansas City, Metro Jackson County.


00;28;54;00 - 00;29;21;14

Cary Hall

Okay. The problem is they're being purchased by adults and then they're being brought over here and they're being sold to kids. Right. Typically high school kids, I'm guessing. Yes. And the high school kids are then taking them into the schools and reselling them to kids. And so you have a sophomore in high school buy these. Let's say he takes these candies home and his four year old little sister ingests one of these with a thousand milligrams of THC.


00;29;21;18 - 00;29;22;27

Cary Hall

What happens?


00;29;22;29 - 00;29;26;07

Cal Hayden

She she can end up in a hospital or worse.


00;29;26;09 - 00;29;29;01

Cary Hall

Or if you're lucky enough, in the hospital. Yes.


00;29;29;03 - 00;29;29;24

Cal Hayden

Okay.


00;29;29;27 - 00;29;58;19

Cary Hall

So so this this is now you understand why I'm doing this today. Okay. This is what's going on. And this is scary as hell. This is legal. Colorado, Missouri, Oklahoma. Go down the list of states that are letting this happen. This is legal, but it's not meant for children. This is stuff is supposed to be for adults. So you got to ask yourself the question, why are they packaging this to look like it's a child's candy?


00;29;58;22 - 00;30;02;02

Cary Hall

There's got to be a reason because they're selling it and they know who's consuming it.


00;30;02;02 - 00;30;03;06

Cal Hayden

That's exactly right.


00;30;03;08 - 00;30;27;07

Cal Hayden

And, you know, and parents need to know if you're looking at it, Nerds or any candy that's out there, the only way you can tell the difference is they'll do a little spin off on the name and it'll have a little mark in the in the corner that says THC in it. Very small, really hard to identify, but you need to look for those things with your kids, especially whatever they bring home.


00;30;27;10 - 00;30;44;22

Cary Hall

That's why we're doing this today. And I hope you're I hope you're learning from this today on what's going on. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting here on the HIA Radio Network, coast to coast across the USA. We'll be right back after the break. We're going to talk about sex trafficking now and it will be an interesting segment.


00;30;44;22 - 00;31;06;29

Cary Hall

Stay tuned. Welcome back. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show broadcasting coast to coast across the USA. We've got Sheriff Cal Hayden in studio with us today. I hope you're as shocked by listening to this and seeing what I just showed you as I am. Okay. And I want to show you a picture here of something. Shaun Floyd, my producer here in studio, just brought this up.


00;31;07;00 - 00;31;25;24

Cary Hall

Look at this, star buds. Does that remind you of anything? Now, it's my understanding that and they list all of the cities that where they're located. They ship this stuff anywhere in the country. So all the things that I just showed you can be bought right here. This is just one of many and can be shipped across the country.


00;31;25;29 - 00;31;49;11

Cary Hall

So your kids can order this online. You heard Sheriff Hayden talk about that earlier, the kid that ordered the Adderall. Well, this is an Adderall. This is supposed to be recreational marijuana. But you see what we have here? You know, like I said, this is this is I thought I knew. Okay. I'm a pretty well-informed guy, but I had no idea the level that this that we're at.


00;31;49;17 - 00;31;56;01

Cary Hall

Let's switch gears. And this is probably even a more disturbing topic, if you can say that sex trafficking.


00;31;56;04 - 00;32;14;01

Cary Hall

You know, I mentioned to you off here that, you know, when I had my my company Benefits by Design before we sold to Northwestern Mutual, our offices off 110th Street off Metcalf. Right next door to me was a Comfort Inn hotel. And we used to use that hotel to hold seminars where we taught people Medicare, Medicare Advantage, etc..


00;32;14;03 - 00;32;33;23

Cary Hall

And I found out one day it was a police officer. No. What? What? What are we? What are Overland Park Police doing here? Turns out they were there because there was a sex trafficking operation using that hotel. That's ten years ago. Right. This is now go back to this border issue. It's wide open. Okay. This is what again, this is not political people.


00;32;33;23 - 00;32;46;12

Cary Hall

This is just pure fact. How is that affecting this sex trafficking thing? And how important is the I-35 corridor here in Johnson County and other places around the country to allowing this to happen?


00;32;46;14 - 00;33;08;08

Cal Hayden

Much like you, I was I had no idea. I lived here in Johnson County my whole life, had no idea this was going on. I had a really great lady and gentlemen come in that were worried about this to my office and asked me how many massage parlors were in Olathe, Kansas. Olathe is one of our communities, and it's about 100,000 people and I don't know a couple.


00;33;08;10 - 00;33;28;07

Cal Hayden

She lays down this map and she said, There's 27. She was. This is just Olathe. How many do you think you've got your county? No idea, because you've got literally thousands. I What do you mean? Where are they? And she says, Well, and once you start looking, you look at these smaller malls and some of them in the areas you'll see massage, right?


00;33;28;10 - 00;33;29;13

Cary Hall

I see them. Yeah.


00;33;29;16 - 00;33;56;17

Cal Hayden

Those are where the human trafficking happens. We've made arrests in those or later we've done cooperative investigations with them. They're really hard to hit because it's like Whac-A-Mole. You hit one here and they'll turn up somewhere else. These. And this is cartel members that do this, too. And. And Chinese gangs that are doing it. They move these girls around and they hold their visas over their heads.


00;33;56;19 - 00;34;20;28

Cal Hayden

If they've got a work visa and they're in there, a lot of them are Oriental. They're also coming through the border too. Anything to get over here because the life they had was so bad. They think this is better, but they're everywhere. And if you drive around malls, if you live in a suburban area and you see that massage sign and the windows are blacked out, go in and see what they're dressed like.


00;34;21;01 - 00;34;23;21

Cal Hayden

It is amazing. It's real easy to check.


00;34;23;23 - 00;34;32;07

Cary Hall

So so that's that's that's interesting that. So these are not the chain massage parlors that you.


00;34;32;07 - 00;34;32;19

Cal Hayden

Oh no.


00;34;32;21 - 00;34;48;12

Cary Hall

That are legitimate. These are the ones in the strip malls. And you just heard the sheriff say that had the windows blacked out, etc.. And most of these girls are Asian that are coming in here. Okay. And they're being used for that. So how many of those girls are turned into prostitutes and the rest of it? Or is that what they really are?


00;34;48;13 - 00;35;07;00

Cal Hayden

That's what they are. That's what they do with them. They're forced. It's and, you know, it's interesting because the term indentured servant comes up, which. Yeah, we know what that means. Right. But that's that's what they call they use these ladies and we've had faith based groups try to go in and help these girls. And a lot of them don't.


00;35;07;03 - 00;35;13;02

Cal Hayden

They don't. It's it's their life and that's what they do. So it's tragic.


00;35;13;04 - 00;35;20;14

Cary Hall

So how how is that being stopped? Is it being stopped and in is that, again, part of this border issue that we're dealing with?


00;35;20;15 - 00;35;41;01

Cal Hayden

You know, it is. And in interestingly enough, those those legitimate massage parlors that you just mentioned, they're the ones that are really being hurt. So they are trying to get statutes in place that you have to be licensed to have a massage parlor. You have to have inspections. Right. And make sure that those things are happening. It is right.


00;35;41;05 - 00;35;49;25

Cal Hayden

It is. And they're the ones that are upset about it and they're tired of getting hit on when they're trying to give somebody legitimate massage. So they're they're helping us out in a big way.


00;35;49;26 - 00;35;50;15

Cary Hall

That's good to hear


00;35;50;15 - 00;35;55;09

Cal Hayden

To try to do it. And we also get get calls in and follow those up and do best.


00;35;55;12 - 00;36;11;16

Cary Hall

Somebody tell you, see something, say something. You hear that all the time. Here's your answer. If you happened to go into one of these places, you look at it and go, this is not what I thought it was. Call the sheriff's department to report it. But we don't have a lot of time left. Child trafficking, child sex trafficking.


00;36;11;21 - 00;36;13;05

Cary Hall

How serious is that? What's going.


00;36;13;05 - 00;36;38;28

Cal Hayden

On? It's unbelievable. I went to the border last year and there are literally children coming across by themselves, across the border unaccompanied, whose parents paid the cartels their life savings to get their child in the United States. What happens to that child between the journey through Mexico or wherever they come from to the United States? No one knows. But you can guess a lot of the things that are happening.


00;36;39;00 - 00;36;41;02

Cary Hall

What is happening to them when they come through here.


00;36;41;04 - 00;37;01;16

Cal Hayden

They come through here. They're trying to find someone. They don't know anybody. So they've got a number usually for someone to call and somebody will come get them. But we don't know that that person's not trafficking the child just as bad as as they were coming across the border. So it is it is a terrible, heartless situation.


00;37;01;19 - 00;37;14;22

Cary Hall

So what's so the pedophile that's preying on these children goes online and finds a source that then brings him one of these children, which they sexually abuse.


00;37;14;22 - 00;37;19;05

Cal Hayden

Cartel doesn’t care where they go, as long as they get their money.


00;37;19;07 - 00;37;30;15

Cary Hall

You know, it's it's shocking. It's it's sad. It is. Is there a light at the end of the tunnel on any of this stuff?


00;37;30;16 - 00;37;42;20

Cal Hayden

Got to close that border and nothing. The only people that I can see and I don't want to be political here, but the only people that I can see that are really making out from this are some politicians who are turning a blind eye to it and the cartels.


00;37;42;22 - 00;38;05;11

Cary Hall

And that's the message. That's it. Yeah. And again, you know, this is not political people. The whole purpose of doing this today was just to bring to your attention. You live in one of these suburban communities like Overland Park, Johnson County, and you think everything is just fine. It's not. And you need to be aware of this. You need to think about these things when you are voting, when you are involved in the process.


00;38;05;11 - 00;38;15;01

Cary Hall

This is what's going on. And when you can if you see these kind of drugs and this kind of stuff being distributed, if you see something as they say, say something. Thank you for doing this today.


00;38;15;07 - 00;38;15;21

Cal Hayden

Well, thank you.


00;38;15;21 - 00;38;17;23

Cary Hall

I really appreciate this. I'd like to get you back on here.


00;38;17;27 - 00;38;18;15

Cal Hayden

It's my honor.


00;38;18;20 - 00;38;37;25

Cary Hall

Because it is important to understand what the people of law enforcement are doing. People like Sheriff Cal Hayden, who, by the way, is up for reelection. And we certainly hope that he is reelected based on the job that he's doing here in Johnson County. Now, I leave you with this thought from Albert Einstein, the one who follows the crowd they usually get no further than the crowd.


00;38;37;28 - 00;38;51;07

Cary Hall

The one who walks alone will find himself in places no one has ever been. Thank you for listening to America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting coast to coast across the USA. Here on the HIA Radio Network. Goodbye, America.



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